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Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 877	Posted - 2012.10.27 22:38:00 - [1] - Quote Miners whine that people can steal from them and they should be able to defend themselves against people who steal from them. CCP says okay and implements aggression for stealing. Miners cry about not being able to kill the people who steal from them by themselves and they need everyone else in space to help them to "Make it fair". CCP says okay and we get crimewatch 2.0. Miners cry about insurance payouts for gankig. CCP says okay and removes insurance payouts for ganking. Miners cry about their untanked ships not having enough EHP. CCP says okay and increases mining barge and exhumer EHP. Now miners are crying about people bumping their ships. Given the pattern of pandering to the every whim of miners I'm going to bet we'll see something about this in patch notes soon.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 877	Posted - 2012.10.27 23:08:00 - [2] - Quote It should be noted that miners don't actually want to shoot at anyone and never have done. They just want it to be totally impossible for anyone to do anything to them that has any affect on their ability to mine AFK in an untanked ship without having to account for the fact that there are other people playing the game. Miners haven't ever made meaningful attempts to defend themselves, they want the game mechanics to render them invulnerable to anything other players can conceive to do to them, and CCP is always happy to oblige. So yup, let's jump straight to it and have anyone who bumps a barge get concorded already.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 877	Posted - 2012.10.27 23:18:00 - [3] - Quote CCP has made it pretty apparent that coding any kind of distinction into any part crimewatch even if the lack of it is hugely detrimental to gameplay is too difficult for them to bother with so I'm pretty sure it'll apply everywhere. I mean it's not like implementing a change made to protect carebears from themselves hasn't totally screwed over everyone else before. If you've tried to use a logistics ship in PVP in highsec you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 877	Posted - 2012.10.27 23:55:00 - [4] - Quote I bump miners. Come at me bro. You don't even have to pay just join one of my wars as an ally.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 877	Posted - 2012.10.28 00:10:00 - [5] - Quote That doesn't even make sense.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 877	Posted - 2012.10.28 01:57:00 - [6] - Quote It's also pretty inappropriate to use it in a situation where an actual physics simulation is happening, but you're actually not referring to that physics simulation.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 883	Posted - 2012.10.28 17:15:00 - [7] - Quote Stop comparing things people do in a video game to ****, that's pretty much the most disgusting thing I've ever seen on an internet forum and you keep doing it. Sexual assault is a horrific thing that ruins peoples lives, nobody with even the most basic sense of human empathy could possibly equate finding it entertaining to annoy a person in a video game to that. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 888	Posted - 2012.10.29 01:42:00 - [8] - Quote Probably the people who constantly moan to the developers to make it totally impossible for other players to interact with them in any way that they don't like and then when the developers do exactly what they want they whine that it wasn't enough and that if they just make everything a little safer and make the punishments for people they don't like just bit more extreme they'll be fine.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 888	Posted - 2012.10.29 01:52:00 - [9] - Quote Mallak Azaria wrote: Vimsy Vortis wrote: Probably the people who constantly moan to the developers to make it totally impossible for other players to interact with them in any way that they don't like and then when the developers do exactly what they want they whine that it wasn't enough and that if they just make everything a little safer and make the punishments for people they don't like just bit more extreme they'll be fine. You know, mining should give you an aggression timer Unlike miners I don't support changes that totally screw over huge portions of the playerbase and generally diminish the quality of the game just because it will benefit me in some way in the short term.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 889	Posted - 2012.10.29 02:29:00 - [10] - Quote Not to mention that miners don't actually want to defend themselves or do any kind of thing in game to cause the thing they want to happen to happen. They want someone else to do it for them, namely CCP.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 892	Posted - 2012.10.29 09:51:00 - [11] - Quote If there was collision damage in the game I'm pretty sure there'd constantly be a huge number of threads complaining about how broken collision damage is.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 897	Posted - 2012.10.29 22:57:00 - [12] - Quote Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote: what if the miners just formed a fleet and had a blackbird or an ashimmu web their ships or something idk I know I probably sound like a broken record when I say this because I say it in every miner whine thread that crops up, but for the record I'll put it out again. Miners will not, under any circumstance, do anything to change their play style in order to adapt to emergent player behavior. The only thing they care about is their ability to earn the maximum quantity of isk per hour while not actually interacting with the. It isn't that they don't know that there are things that they can do, they just don't care because they feel entitled to being able to do sit AFK i an untanked ship for long periods of time with their 3 year old character who is still in an NPC corp without any other player so much as glancing at them. They feel that they are entitled to that because CCP constantly reinforces their belief by capitulating to them time and time again. They are bloated, immobile parasites slowly sucking the life out of the game and every attempt CCP attempts to itch just further embeds them.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 898	Posted - 2012.10.29 23:20:00 - [13] - Quote It sure does and I don't even know why. I mean it's not like every miner whine thread isn't full of twice as many people telling the miners to man up than miners whining and we all pay the same subscription fee. What is it about miners that makes them so much more important to CCP than every other player in the game that CCP has to emergency patch things to make them happy while gaping holes in game mechanics are left unchanged for years? I don't get it.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 913	Posted - 2012.10.30 15:38:00 - [14] - Quote Watch as CCP drastically increase the mass of mining barges so they are impossible to bump.

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